_panic_: weekly status: comments

[tuff]

_panic_

little while since we heard from you, made any progress with the site command/del bugs?

[JoC]

hmm, ioFTPD without developer again or _panic_ just being a bad boy and going on vaccation without letting us know?`

[oslike]

no, he is just visiting darkone for a while

[EwarWoo]

They're prolly both busy making arrangements for the funeral of the ioFTPD project.
iniCom don't seem to have the best organisational skills. There shoulda been a team of paid developpers in on this from day 1 of taking over. Not wait until d1 has been gone for 4 months then look for a friend who can volunteer a bit of spare time.
Not to menation every time they promise something they have more timeslips that m$.
The future of io aint looking too rosie.

[mr_F]

thanks for deleting my post admin(s).
great to know that a completely fair and honest post gets removed. I was suggesting an idea, and a dissatisfaction with my investment. and in return, my opinion gets abolished as if i am not even entitled to express it.

[oslike]

oh they deleted your post with the suggestion to make ioftpd OPEN SOURCE ? I think they just moved it ...

[EwarWoo]

Yup, they did
http://www.inicom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16134

[ArtX]

i think we should report _panic_ as a missing person - been quite a while since there was any updates

[JoC]

Originally Posted by Carpo

i think we should report _panic_ as a missing person - been quite a while since there was any updates

http://www.inicom.net/forum/showthre...700#post127700

[ArtX]

over a week ago, i did see it b4 i posted

[helenoksen]

hold your ponys.

the man is doing the best he can

[Linkster]

Yes, please hold your ponies. Good things are in store. Look for a post from _panic_ very soon.

[EwarWoo]

Hehe. Will be interesting to see how long your definition of "very soon" is after seeing the iniCom definitions of soon, shortly and next week.
Working in customer services myself I gotta say you really need to learn the customer services motto of under promise and over deliver, otherwise you have this situation where people have little faith in what you say.

[PNC]

hehe.. your right.. the words "very soon" or "nears completion" has been used very often... "nears completion" has been used for more then 8 month hehe... I hope not that this product ends like Radmin.. I'm just asking, why inicom is not working with deadline? like giving a deadline that ioFTPD 1.0 must be completed??? full function??.. and if not, why not??

[Harm]

And then what ? release it when we meet the deadline even if it's not completely ready... or change the deadline every few months...
Far too many pieces of software are like that. I'd rather wait a few months (years ?) more, go through more beta stages than having a buggy product that was released on time. I can't remember how long we had to wait for almost all Blizzard games.

However, I must admit that they made some communication errors about this product and the release of v1.0.


I heard _panic_ had real life problems he had to deal with before coming back. Some very interesting ideas were mentionned in these forums: complete documentation and code skeleton for the modules, revision control system (who knows how many developers will work on ioFTPD in the future), unit tests, etc. I believe they are all in the pipeline and will be announced when they're ready (just my 2 cents).
We can't plan problems/downtimes so I'll live with them and make a list of bugs/requests I would like to see implemented and send it to _panic_ when he'll be back.

Also, it would be great to be able to chat with _panic_ (or the other members of the dev team, if any) from time to time. Maybe he doesn't like irc but something like a monthly bugday would be great.