Damn, I just located the problem I think. Not sure how it happened but the Bad Password issue made me think and remember that I have DeFXP on my machine. So.....I decide to take a look at my site.dat file and learn that all of my passwords are screwed. Now since these were all created under 846, this can only mean that 846 still had the bug. I just went back and double checked 847 and it is saving the passwords correctly. Now if I only had a tool that would clean up the bad saves...lol I know I will never find all the posts from the bad saves to reget the correct passwords.